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How Many is Too Many? A Question for John P. Moore, et al.

by Liam Scheff

A public request for the record, for the AIDSTruth.org cadre:

Dr. John P. Moore, Mr. Seth Kalichman, Ms. Jean Bergman, and company:

I have been for years now impressed by the doggedness with which the AIDSTruth group has done everything in its power to bury, hide, obfuscate, libel, slander, and mostly squirrel away from the public, the story of the orphans used in dangerous AIDS drug trials in New York City. Dr. John P. Moore (of the Weill Cornell medical center), together with Ms. Jeanne Bergman (AIDS activist), have made a point of telling the public media, usually through bullying letters, threatening libel, to ignore and bury the story – that the orphans were used to no bad end, and that even though many died, there is nothing to be alarmed about.

It’s all fine, if they say it’s fine. And that’s supposed to be good enough for you, should you care to be concerned about using orphaned children in drug trials.

So, after years of wondering at the lack of humanity in these people, I’ve given up. I simply want to know: How many is too many?

To Moore, Bergman, Kalichman, et al:

1). How many children would have to die in or following a drug trial for to care? For you to be even slightly concerned over the nature of the drugs or trial? Give us a figure – we know the number is greater than 200 out of 532 – which is the number in the case of the New York orphans. Ballpark it for us. 300? 450? All of them? Or, is there no limit to the number of deaths that can be tolerated in an AIDS drug trial in children?

2). How many children having their stomachs cut open would be too many? Stomachs cut open to facilitate a plastic tube, through which drugs are pumped, and cannot be refused? What percentage is just ‘too much’ in your estimation?

3). How many buffalo humps, and breasts on boys from Protease Inhibitors would be too much for you to think “okay?”

4). How many uncounted ‘adverse effects’ would be too many to cover up in Uganda?

5). How many toxic FDA Black Box labeled drugs given to a four year old child at one time, at higher than normal doses, would be too many? More than 7 – we know that already. So, name it.


Please do, fill in the blanks, so the rest of us know what we’re dealing with.

Just wondering, since nothing seems to have any effect on any of you, as long as it bears the word “NIH approved.”


Liam Scheff